tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11862686.post115235461242619766..comments2024-01-14T10:22:00.733+00:00Comments on A Liberal Goes A Long Way: Oxford Labour: environmentally cluelessStephen Tallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11720133001571029678noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11862686.post-1152492357401270862006-07-10T01:45:00.000+01:002006-07-10T01:45:00.000+01:00Hi Stephen,As a genuine question, why wasn't this ...Hi Stephen,<BR/><BR/>As a genuine question, why wasn't this policy in your manifesto for the last set of local elections? I remember being surprised by the amendment, and wondered when your group's policy had changed. A quick google suggests that this is an issue where quite a number of your Lib Dem comrades round the country disagree with you, so to try to present this as a party political issue is doubly curious.<BR/><BR/>I think there has actually been a lot of cross-party working on the environment both before the last set of elections and since. Your example of 'a customary disregard for the truth' being our claim that you don't oppose incineration isn't that convincing because you, erm, don't oppose incineration. My view of constructive opposition is that it involves working together where that is possible and where we agree, which to be honest has been most of the time, while at the same time opposing your administration when you try to push through policies which don't have the support of council. You did exactly the same before May 2006, and back then I felt exactly the same outrage when I saw your group's opposition then ("how dare they disagree with us publicly when we are trying to do something which is unpopular but which we think is the right thing to do").<BR/><BR/>Take care<BR/><BR/>Dan xxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11862686.post-1152362701716950232006-07-08T13:45:00.000+01:002006-07-08T13:45:00.000+01:00I've long voiced concern over recycling.Sometimes ...I've long voiced concern over recycling.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes it is the best way to go, but with glass bottles, surely its better to reuse them? Even plastic bottles can be reused, although changing the plastic used may be neeeded in many cases.<BR/><BR/>Of course, most people don't like to think about such subtleties and instead recite the mantra - recycled good, everything else bad...Tristanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15395992764678278326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11862686.post-1152361119451187572006-07-08T13:18:00.000+01:002006-07-08T13:18:00.000+01:00Nice one Stephen. Thanks for that. It explains a...Nice one Stephen. Thanks for that. It explains a lot about Labour's recent so called "constructive" opposition (also known as not being willing to take responsibility for the deep do-do they have left our fair city in and which now occupies you night and day no doubt). Student union politics it appears...:)<BR/><BR/>When I were young and yoghurt was not the ubiquitous load of processed global food slurry it now appears to have become, we bought a "yoghurt maker" machine, which had little glass reuseable pots. And it's ever so easy to make. All this "bio-sludge" with fancy pseudo-science names of today was alive and well in those little pots.<BR/><BR/>So maybe one answer is to look more and more to producers not using things that are difficult of expensive to reuse or recycle in their packaging in the first place.Jock Coatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15550558005508328017noreply@blogger.com